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Wednesday, 10 July 2019

July 2019

Well into another July we go.
Please note this blog carries a fair bit of sarcasm so if you struggle to understand that please turn away now.

A month of unknown for any live music venue or nightclub as many head off to festivals, holidays and such like....or sit out the back hoping for a glimpse of the orange orb in the sky.
The trusty old club that everyone couldn't do without thro the early part of year gets dumped and has no pals to play with.......or many think that is the case as they stay in scanning facebook frantically to see if anyone if going out to play.
Gone are the days you got up and actually just went out to see who was out enjoying themselves and join in.
Well in actual fact we don't dwell on that - We roll up our sleeves and get on with it in July, as I'm not sure I've mentioned this before....WE ROCK EVERY WEEKEND. Have done for the last 47 years.

Granted at this time of year many have plans, waines rattling about the house all day and things to do, but for me it just adds to a very frustrating period after June that can be just as variable as many hit the Galadays or recover from the likes of Download for a few weeks after skint and exhausted.

I still have to decide, just like playing Russian roulette every week and trying to plan and build shows on quicksand  - what could work ? who will come ? what else is on ? who's washing their hair that night ? .....the list is becoming longer and longer to the point even a Champions League final featuring two teams that play each other numerous times during the year threw the biggest spanner in the works I've ever seen. It was a shite game from what I watched the following day on the amazing invention called catch up tv. A marvellous concept where you can go out,do and see things that are never recorded or repeated like live music then go home and watch what was on the telly while you were doing all that fun stuff. Amazing what those wee computer things can do now.
But Hey ho..... that's show business sometimes.
Take it like a man as they say till you hear "but whens the bands coming back that we heard were awesome and we missed" from the could have's but didney bothers........ ............................................................................that gap was me biting my tongue.
In the past I have been very diplomatic and said I'll have to wait and see etc etc.
Ach one of those things....mibbey next time......aye the rain was a bit heavy to go out in just a T-Shirt right could have got your trainers wet in the rain, then that would have been a disaster..........
I possibly should be a little more blunt now, like a sledgehammer in the coupon.....that's face for those needing a hand with the local translation.
Truth is they might never be back....we are not a charity and neither are the bands and neither do we have time travel abilities to see how many might turn up next time in the future.
It costs alot of money to travel, play and put on shows now so if it's not cutting the mustard for the bands or venue then you had your chance so to speak. That might have been the chance to see them but although I certainly try to establish bands and give everyone a fair crack to do that just in case it's one of those nights, sometimes you just have to change direction and think of something else
as two of the highest and fastest selling events in the first 6 months haven't been rock orientated events.
Now before every takes the hump and fingers start wagging or pointing especially two fingers at a time -  it even happens with the largest of bands and venues up and down the country.
Why repeat the same mistakes or misjudgements hoping for a different outcome and run flat out to go nowhere ?
Things have to change folks or things will change and you'll be left behind.

A start would be to stop opting to pay on the night when you know you are going at small venues that are putting advance tickets out there for the very reason they want you to buy them especially when it's so easy, safe and secure to get a ticket online these days.
I don't think there is enough people who fully appreciate what effect they are having on gigs constantly expecting to do this. You definitely hear alot of them moaning when gigs get postponed or cancelled due to poor advance sales anyway.
We were going to that - we had buses booked and everything.
Ah but did you book a ticket for the gig before or after the bus and hotel rooms ?
Oh you were just going to turn up. Hang on let me check  if there's a ticket category for that on skiddle for telepathic online sales.
Nope that's not listed I'm afraid as an option for us to sell.
That's not made up either for dramatic effect...well apart from the Skiddle bit. That was actually passed on to me.
FYI this week alone I've seen 2 festivals and 4 major events cancelled due to poor advance sales so it's very common place as I've said before and not unique to our club.

SO what if I said if you didn't get a ticket in advance for a TICKET ONLY event you wouldn't get in ?
I can extend the online sales time upto 4 or 5pm on show day now due to new tech we use on the door so surely you'll know you'll be going to the gig two hours before and nip online to buy one ?
Would that make a difference or make you go in a huff and tell me to stick my tickets without lube as you don't know if you'll make it along til 5 minutes before the band are due on stage ?
I know many will sit on ticketmassa, card in hand and not even blink at £100 plus a ticket for events a year in advance to sit 3 miles from the stage and watch it on the big screens or stand in the rain and mud upto your clackers but when you ask for £5, 6 , 8 or dare I say it a tenner a few weeks before a cracking event on their doorstep - the fear of commitment becomes too much for way too many.
I'll wait and see what I'm doing type thing or who else is going.
I know I'm the headmaster but it's not school anymore. If you want to go and defo going  - get a ticket and show you are. What's the worst that will happen - you guarantee your ticket and get to see a great show without stressing last minute if you can get in if it's a busy one or have to turn up early on the night if there is a few tickets left to buy that all your mates got one for weeks before OR NOT AT ALL ?

Anyway we'll leave July to work itself out as in other news this week....
Sadly a small local venue in town closed at the start of July as mounting costs and most likely lower than expected turnouts had a massive effect on their business plans. Shame as it was a great wee place and good people running it trying to make a wee difference to the town.
Many have already said I must be rubbing my hands that a rival venue has closed etc etc.
Truth is I'm not. They tried to do something different to what we do week in week out and bring people into town also offer a choice. That's now gone. Will those people who popped in there still come into town now and continue to add to an already faltering night time economy in Bathgate that incidentally also tended to come along to the Dread nightclub as part of their night out too ?
Who knows - my psychic abilities ran out years ago and my crystal balls are cracked and wrinkled.
All I do know there has to be a change in the apathetic approach that's been growing for a couple of years and pretty soon.

Anyhoo that's the quick review of June so if you would care to click on to the website, mobile app or venture into our many many other gig listings you will find the following coming up in the next month and a bit and some you will NEED a ticket to get into in August ! Just saying !

Thursday, 13 June 2019


After much deliberation I have decided to end the silver and gold card VIP scheme that has been in operation for a good part of 9 years at the club when all cards expire this JULY 2019.
Set up to reward the loyalty of those who attend the most, it seems to have run its course as even the potential savings made over the years not paying to get in that isn't offered at any other Live Music venues or Nightclubs in Scotland as far as I'm aware, seems like it isn't enough to maintain some peoples interest or support to keep it going with one, two or three visits in a year. There are many other reasons but simply the time has come to wrap it up in it's current form.
Out of nearly 300 cards issued over the years we only have a hardcore of 40 odds that still use the card as intended, regular enough and support the club as hoped.
Bravo to all of you.
I was going to wrap it all up completely however, out of a bit loyalty to the hardcore who always use their cards and support the club, I've had a good think going forward what would work best for both the current card holders and the club. So after looking thro all the attendances and times of entry it was very clear the vast majority of those who still use their cards show a definite split on times between the live element and nightclub entry.
So from July either a Nightclub only loyalty card or Live Music Loyalty Card will be issued for those who have attended the minimum amount of times in the year as always asked for. Those who are 50/50 on what time they have been coming in will get the choice of card as opposed to me deciding but looking thro the data the vast majority have already sorted what would be best based on the times they've been checking in for the last year.
One wee heads up in the meantime as the NIGHTCLUB only cards won't receive any Live Music Ticket discounts or offers after July - If you were planning on going to the likes of Foreigners Journey, Motorheadache, Volts and a few others vip discount is available on tickets at the paybooth in advance I would kinda sort that out in the next couple of weeks if you can.
As ever if you have any questions just ask but the website vip section will be getting revised soon to explain things in detail and what card does what. Alan

Thursday, 6 June 2019

June 2019 News


In the past few months we have been hard at it upgrading the lower level to further enhance the live experience for those who attend our live shows on a regular basis.
In a time where the live music industry and venues are in the decline we are showing our commitment for the future by investing a great deal of time, money and passion into the upgrades which we are hoping will not only bring in bigger names to Bathgate also to make the club a choice venue for many acts in the future that appreciate what we do and how we look after them as well along with all who love Live Music in the area and further afield.

During those very busy months we've had some excellent feedback from regular gig attendee's even those who make just a couple of trips a year as they stay a bit further away can't believe what we do on a weekly basis and would love a club like this in their home town.
It's certainly great to hear and see all the positive feedback. We welcome it after that challenges that had to be overcome with all the blood, sweat and beer that's been poured in.
Many thanks to all the tradesmen and Tennents who helped two lunatics take over the asylum.

So I would say if you've not already been in recently why not pay us a visit and show us your commitment to Live music at DreadnoughtLIVE.

After much deliberation I have decided to end the silver and gold card VIP scheme that has been in operation for a good part of 8 years at the club when all cards expire this JULY 2019. 
Set up to reward the loyalty of those who attend the most, it seems to have run its course as the potential savings made over the year (approx £500 in some cases) that isn't offered at any other Live Music or Nightclub in Scotland as far as I'm aware, isn't enough to maintain support to the club and make it the first or only place to come to. 
Out of over 300 cards issued over the years we only have a hardcore of 30 odds that still use the card as intended and support the club with their loyalty. Bravo to all of you. 

Unfortunately there has also been a massive drop off in Vip's buying gig tickets, many with a few quid discount from the  price in advance for Live events in the last few years. It was very sad to see along with the attitude of some when they were asked to pay to get in outwith the times stated on their card even to the point of refusing to come in or back. Very disappointing indeed even tho all they had to do was simply come in before the expiry time on the card. 

Despite many lists, online ticket discount trials and reminders in the past that takes a fair bit of time to produce the uptake faded. 
So I'm afraid to say there is a limit of how long and how much I will spend on things that no one is supporting anymore. 

I appreciate there also has been a lot of changes in the structure of how bands are paid at the club in the last year which has had a small bearing on when cards can be used too but that's well after the horse had bolted so to speak. 

As the club actually was the one subsiding the vip entry to the live music element it was unfair to ask the bands to allow that subsidy as well - hence NO vip discounts being offered for certain events in last few months and future gigs coming up.

So despite much encouragement to be a vip over the years the time has come to wrap it up. 

After a review some existing Card holders will be offered the chance to have one of the NEWLY proposed reward cards for EITHER the LIVE MUSIC element of the night or THE NIGHTCLUB element. 
Both will be based on future loyalty/attendance to the club also monitored more closely. 
Simply meaning if you don't attend enough you won't enjoy the benefits and savings of being in the rewards saving program. 


We were honoured to once again for the second year in succession to be nominated as one of the finalists for the awards ceremony against some top venues and clubs in the land. 
Many thanks who took the time to vote for us and the Scottish Hospitality Awards team to recognise all that we do. 
Unfortunately it wasn't to be this year either but we ain't going anywhere so there's always next year. 

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